Why is it so hard to fold?

Over the past few days I’ve been blessed with being able to sit and see from the perspective of both the dealer and the player. It’s definitely nice to get the chance to play cards once in a while. While I was playing the other night it occurred to me that even after the thousands of hands that I’ve seen outcomes for, I still sit and wonder if my luck is sitting with me… Will I get lucky and flop the set? Will I complete the straight on the river? Or will I be smart enough to fold and not even worry about it? This is what brings me to my topic today… Why is it so hard to fold?

To start I guess you have to figure out why you are considering playing the hand in the first place. Do I have good enough cards to see a flop? Do I have the right cards to raise with? Do I even know what I’m doing with the position I’m in at the table? So first and foremost, this is a good place to start talking about pre-flop hand values.

Here is a chart that everyone should be familiar with! This shows you where you stand with the 2 cards you’re holding based on every position at the table!

Hand Ranking

Now before I go on, I guess this is a good place to talk about everyone’s “Favorite hands”… Let me make this statement, one of the biggest mistakes you can make in poker is having/playing a favorite hand. To many times I have heard “This is my favorite hand, I have to play it!” Now I understand that everyone has that one hand that they will always remember, and they love to talk about. As I’ve said before, poker at its heart is a game, and games are designed to be fun. I mean, let’s be honest, having a favorite hand is a conversation starter. Everyone loves telling the stories of why it’s their favorite hand. Having a favorite hand is fun! But that doesn’t mean it’s always the right thing to play…

Now as a player, I’ll admit it. I have a few storied hands that I like to talk about. Q-7 for instance, this hand is commonly known as “The Computer Hand.” Why is it known as that you ask?  Well, years ago someone did a computer simulation of Texas Hold ’em starting hands and how they fared when played to the river. When analysis was complete Q-7 was in the middle meaning 50% of the starting hands beat Q-7 and 50% of the starting hands lost to it. Thus, it’s the 50/50 hand! I’m a huge fan of 50/50 odds, making these 2 cards easy for me to call with in a hand that has not been raised… Notice where Q-7 falls on the above chart? It’s in the fold zone… Even I’m human…

On to my next point of emphasis, just because a hand has a name doesn’t mean it’s a good hand to play. Here are some examples of hands that have names:

  • Dolly Parton: 9-5 (named for the movie 9 to 5)
  • San Francisco Busboy: Q-3 (Queen with a tray)
  • Jackson 5: J-5 (self explanatory)
  • The Moneymaker: 5-4 (the hand he won the 2003 WSOP Main Even with)
  • The Doyle Brunson: 10-2 (he won the 1976 and 1977 WSOP Main Evens with this hand. Both times his intentions were to bluff, but ended up hitting full houses on the river… He also won a major tournament with 10-3 but that’s another story… Funny thing is that he hates that this hand has been dubbed with his name…)

When I hear a player complain “I only played it because it was Doyle Brunson’s hand,” I chuckle a bit knowing what you’re really saying is “you like playing bad cards…” Only “The Moneymaker” even remotely falls into a callable situation… The other 4 I’ve listed are all in the fold zone…

So now we come to it… Why is it so hard to fold? The truth of the matter is folding is the hardest skill to learn in poker… This statement in itself may be profound to some, and absolutely confusing to others. Now I’m not talking about the pre-flop 7-2, 8-3, 10-3, 9-4 or any of the other hands that most people have a preconceived notion are terrible starting hands…. What I’m talking about are the hands that start out great then the flop comes out and you’ve got no part of it. For example, you are sitting at a 9 handed table and you get dealt Jc-10c, and you were fortunate enough that no one raised and you called for the minimum. The Flop comes out Kc-Kh-7d. Someone bets 3x the big blind. Now most people have already made the decision to fold here. The fact of the matter is the only way you can win this pot is if you get lucky, and get 2 running cards. The only improvements you have are hitting 2 of the last 3 J’s left in the deck, hitting 3 of the last 10’s left in the deck, running Q + 9, or Q + A. or 2 of the last 10 Clubs in the deck. So if you’ve followed along and have done the math 18 cards are gone already from the hands that were dealt. There is 1 burn card and 3 cards already on the board. 22 cards are already accounted for out of 52. You would have to assume that in those 9 hands 6-10 of the cards you need are already accounted for. So of the last 30 cards you need to hit 2 in a row to even have a hope at winning. You need to get Lucky! The odds aren’t in your favor… but you call anyway. Essentially you have just donated to the person who is representing one of the last 2 kings… So  the turn comes out 2d… at this point please fold… it’s never good to donate…

I think one of the biggest misconceptions in the game of Texas Hold’em is that you can’t win without getting lucky. Now don’t get me wrong here, getting lucky along the way is helpful, but don’t bank on it winning you a tournament. I had an interesting conversation with a poker pro a while back, and his comment was “I want you to get lucky!” How crazy is that!? Now if you really think about what he’s saying here, he wants you to get lucky a few times so that when you are in dire straits you can call upon your luck and it will fail you. Fun fact here: hitting that 1 outer on the river only happens 1 out of 55,000 hands… The odds of it happening to you aren’t in your favor…

Some of the best players in the game have found a way to use your luck against you. It’s called BETTING! Once they’ve figured out that you are the “call station” at the table they will nickel and dime you till you haven’t got a nickel to your name… My point here is you shouldn’t bank on your luck coming to save you every time… Wait for quality hands and use the skills you have versus letting your luck get you into trouble.

We as humans have a flaw… A saying from my childhood comes to mind and fits the bill perfectly. Curiosity killed the cat! This may be one of the hardest things to overcome, curiosity… We always want to see cards… The “what if” seem to get the best of us in poker. We always wonder, what if I stayed in that hand. Would my cards have come? Could he be bluffing? This is in my opinion why it’s so hard to fold… With all the possibilities we let our curiosity get the best of us… The keys to overcoming the curiosity, is knowing where your hand stands before you let it get this far… Referring back to the chart, if your hand doesn’t fall in the red or at least the yellow, you’re probably in good shape to get out of the hand long before your curiosity takes over…

To sum all this up, get familiar with where your hand sits pre-flop… Don’t allow yourself to fall into a pattern where your counting on getting lucky… Curiosity is the downfall of all players… Learn to fold earlier and you will go along way with this game!

I hope I’ve helped some here! Good luck and may many more pot be pushed your way!

Why Poker?

Over the years I have had many people ask me why I chose poker. Well, the truth is there isn’t just one answer to that question.
First you have to answer the question, “What is Poker?”
When you type “What is Poker” into your search engine (in this case Google) you’re given the generic definition:
pok·er2
ˈpōkər/
noun
noun: poker
1. a card game played by two or more people who bet on the value of the hands dealt to them. A player wins the pool either by having the highest combination at the showdown or by forcing all opponents to concede without a showing of the hand, sometimes by means of bluff.
Well that’s a pretty bland answer, but it is an answer. The problem is that there is so much more to it than that… And it gets ever harder when you have to break down poker into it’s subcategories (5 Card Draw, Stud, 7 Card Stud, Texas Hold’em, Razz, Omaha, etc.,). So to avoid all that I’m just going to tell you that to me poker is Love. Yes love in it’s own sense of the word.
My friend Scott Sommerdorf asked me a similar question in an interview for the Salt Lake Tribune and their new “I Love…” video series, (there is a link to this in my “about” section but here it is again for quick reference http://www.sltrib.com/home/2483977-155/i-love-video-series-poker-gives) and my answer just barely scratches the surface of what poker is, and what it is to me. I doubt that I will truly offer justice to what poker actually is here today.
To scratch the surface I’m going to start with a story. It was early May of 2000, and I was in Las Vegas to pick up a friend who was coming into town for his bachelor party. Little did I know that this trip to the airport would set into motion a life change people only write stories about… (We’ll use the name Matt for this story to respect his interests.) I pick Matt up from the airport, and after we got his bags all loaded into the rental, he mentions that he has us seats reserved for a small tournament down on the old part of the strip. At this time in my life, poker was just an excuse to get the guys together for some drinks and bragging rights, and maybe take home a few extra bucks here and there. At this point I don’t have a clue what I’m getting myself into. So we pull into the parking lot of a little casino called The Lady Luck (may she rest in peace), and unload our gear. We got checked in and had a few drinks to catch up a bit. The tournament he’d gotten us into didn’t start till 8 that night so we had some time to kill, but we were itching a bit to get in some of the Vegas table action. Our tournament was at the famous Horse Shoe Casino so we decided that was as good a place as any to start. As we walk in from the valet, one of the guys reaches over to shake my hand and offer us some good luck, he shocked me. Not one of those mental shocks, but a literal shock! As I recoiled my hand, he expressed his apologies, and stated, “You never know, maybe I just filled you with some luck!”
Thinking nothing of it, we continued on our way to the Blackjack table. We find a table that has no one there but the dealer. So we sit and exchange our cash for chips. The dealer yells out “Changing 100!” so the manager on the floor comes over and shakes our hand welcoming us to the table. (I wish places still did this kind of thing… I feel like the customer service part of the industry has really diminished). First hand in I get dealt a “Blackjack” and Matt gets 2 face cards. Dealer busts, so
we both get paid. Second hand in I get 9-2, and Matt get 19. Dealer is showing a 4. So I double down, and Matt Stays. Dealer turns over a king and the next card is a queen. The dealer busts again! We turn my card over, and I was given a 9. So we both get paid again. This goes on for the next 10 minutes where neither of lose a hand. We had no idea that this was unheard of, we were just amazed at our luck! As always, it was time for them to change the dealer, so we took this as a good chance to move on our way. As we stood up, we counted our money and I was up to $350 and he was at $290. As we were parting we waved to our previous dealer and thanked the manager and went about our business. So we headed to the poker room, beers in hand. As we walked, for some reason what the valet had said to me resurfaced as a thought … Maybe he was right! Luck might be with us!
Fast forwarding a bit to the start of the tournament, I’m seated in the 7 seat. First hand in with the button in the 9 seat, I look down at A-A. This tournament started us with decently small stacks, I’m guessing we each had 1200 to start with. First player to act raises to 200, second player calls, third and fourth players fold. I call. The 8 seat was empty and the 9 goes all in over the top. Small blind folds. Big blind Folds. Back to the original raiser, He calls, as does the other player. So now we have 3 players all in and I have A-A… Well most people who’ve been playing this
game for a long time would jam right away knowing that its exactly what they want. I take a second thinking about it… More than anything I’m thinking about the guy in the valet… Finally I call… Players turn over K-Q, A-Q, 7-7. Flop comes out 2-2-7. Ah crap! The guy flops a full house. There is literally only one card left in the deck that I can win with. The turn is a J. So at this point I stand up, finish my beer, and begin to offer my goodbyes to the rest of the players. The the dealer lays the final burn card, and to add more drama to the situation, slowly turns over the
river card. Not realizing what has happened, I glance over and see the last Ace in the deck laying there. The table goes crazy. The guy with 7-7 is going crazy laughing as well. No one expected it, especially not me. So the result is I win the first pot of my tournament life, and as luck would have it, in the end, … my first casino tournament win. Not a bad start to the weekend. That first win has been cemented in my life, and is a constant reminder that luck is an important factor in this
game.
As we left I looked for the valet driver who may or may not have been my luck charm that night, but he had already gone home. I left him a $100 tip and a note to thank him. The note said, “Thanks for the Spark!” That tournament made me $2500 which I split with Matt, on the way to an awesome bachelor party weekend!
It would be another 3 years before I sat at another poker table in Vegas. Many things changed after that day. I soon moved to Salt Lake City, got into the cell phone industry… Met my wife, and didn’t really have all that much time to explore poker.
Early in 2003 I met Randy, who at that time was the owner of Utah Amateur Poker League. He invited us out to his game, and Jeff (business associate) and I saw it as a prime opportunity to jump in as a sponsor and maybe sell a few plans to some of their players. The moment I walked in the door it all came rushing back to me… I needed to sit and play some cards… I needed the luck… I needed to feel the chips in my hands… I needed to play poker.
Fast forward to today. I currently own an entertainment company with a good friend and fellow poker enthusiast. Both of us share an accomplished poker resume and spend most of our time dealing cards to help players get better. I currently feel like I’m living a dream. What better life is there than to bring one of my true loves to other people and share their love for it?
So when you ask me “why poker?…” I say “because I love it.”
There are so many different things about the game that I love I could go on for hours here. So to quote my own words, “I love the education of the game. I love playing the game. I love the manipulation of the game. I love teaching the game. I love dealing the game. I love running the tournaments. I love being the jovial guy in the room. I love being the guy that everybody knows.”
I love poker…I doubt that really answers your question, but at least it begins to give you some understanding as to why I’ve chosen poker…
Scott Sommerdorf   |  The Salt Lake Tribune Piper Down Co-Poker Director Les Pendergraft interacts with players during a tournament at Piper Down, Tuesday, April 21, 2015.
Scott Sommerdorf | The Salt Lake Tribune
Piper Down Co-Poker Director Les Pendergraft interacts with players during a tournament at Piper Down, Tuesday, April 21, 2015.

“You know you are betting into a Dead Pot right?”

Good morning! At least its morning here… So I had a nightmare last night… I call it a nightmare because it was one of those dreams where you relive moments in your life… In this case it wasn’t just one moment, it was several moments that seem to continually haunt me…  You see as a tournament director, a poker dealer, and a poker player, there is not a game that goes by where I don’t hear phrases being used by players that have absolutely no clue what the phrase actually means. Some of these phrases (like: Pot Odds, Pot Committed, Dead Pot, Dry Pot, Position Betting, Calculated Move, Outs, Percentages, etc.) have actual meaning in the game. They could also have completely different meaning based on the player using them or the time frame they are being used.

So back to my dream…  Last night I felt like all of my 15 years of playing this wonderful game came back and kicked me in the face! It was like I was watching flash imagery of the probably 10,000 hands where people utter that hair raising phrase that drives me crazy every time I hear it. Followed by me telling them that there is no validity to their comment… And then it starts all over again… I swear this dream was trying to tell me that I’m wasting my time. I’m not going to break down the wall that I keep smacking my head into…

Now, to the purpose of today’s rant. There is one specific phrase that literally makes me cringe almost every time I hear it… That phrase is, “You’re betting into a dead pot…” Now I have searched far and wide to try and actually find the meaning of “dead pot” and have found nothing. (To back my research here is a link to the “Poker Terms Wiki”  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_poker_terms ) The truth is, there is no such thing as a “dead pot”. What has become the understood meaning drives me bonkers! When there is a player “all-in” and has been called by more than one person, without a raise, we should all check down to the river and see who wins! Why don’t we all just roast marshmallows and make s’mores while we’re at it… Blah! We’re here to play poker and accumulate as many chips as possible!

I do understand that you have to eliminate players to win poker tournaments however, the scenario with a player all in and checking it down to the river should only come into play once you’ve eliminated enough people that positioning for the money matters. But don’t call this a “Dead Pot” call it exactly what it is, a money grab. No one will question you, no one will care! (Unless of course you have the literal nuts and are the last to act, in this case if you don’t bet you’ll get the floor called on you and probably get a collusion penalty…)

You will notice in that list of poker terms that there is a term known as “Dry Pot”. It is my belief that this is where the idea of a “Dead Pot” came from. In a dry pot you have a player all-in and have more than one caller but there is no raise. Meaning that no more chips can be placed into the main pot so until there is another bet the side pot is dry. Somewhere back in time, someone saw this as a moment where they could talk themselves into free cards, and started complaining about betting into nothing…  (and if you read my last post you should know how I feel about free cards.)You should never expect to get free cards. Every single moment you are in a hand there is a battle going on. The winner of the battle stacks the chips. If you are the guy waving the white flag begging for free cards, I’m going to run you over, and stack the chips.

I hope that you’ve come to understand that I’m not crazy here, and I know that there is supposed to be a fun element to the game of poker. I hope you understand that if you can’t have fun playing cards you probably should be there in the first place, but know this: Winning is fun too! So don’t get mad at me when I am battling for every pot that I’m a part of… There is a good chance that I’m get trying to gain value out of a pot that has presumably very little value in it. This is poker, every move should be calculated. Every game should have a learning experience connected to it. If you want to see free cards stay at home and deal 8 handed theory to yourself. (for the record 8 handed theory is a good way to learn and begin understanding theories and or probabilities.)

Dead Pot means absolutely nothing, so please stop using the term. When they invented Texas Hold’em they established a “Blind Structure”. This establishment was put into place to avoid situations where there would be a dead pot, or a pot with zero value for anyone… since our forefathers thought it a good idea to protect us from our own stupidity, please show the same respect back and don’t reinvent the wheel…

Thanks!